Tuesday, June 20, 2006

So what next

Was anybody else monitoring the news on Sunday?

After reading that website by that Messianic Jewish pastor, I did wonder if there were going to be any earthquakes out in Oregon. If you don't know what I'm talking about, see my post on Predictions of Earthquakes.

Well, personally, I'm glad there were no major disasters that caused the loss of life. I have wondered how Mr. pastor feels right now. But, as was discussed earlier, the Millerites thought Jesus was coming back in 1844, and they were wrong. Their calculations were right. Many of the things they had were right, but there was just one major thing they were wrong in, what does it mean to have the sanctuary cleansed. Obviously, they found out that the earth wasn't the sanctuary and that it wasn't saying that Jesus was coming back on October 22, 1844.

So, is it possible that Mr. pastor out in Oregon just got something wrong on his end too? What are your thoughts? How many "false prophecies" are we going to run into these days?

3 comments:

Marcel said...

Hi Sharon,

I posted the same thing on Saturday. But if you read the context of that pastor's mass email-letter, it's heavily influenced by God's judgement on a wicked world, as described in OT times. And he uses that to the full extent of Messianic teachings to judge homosexuals, which, coincidentally, was the main driver for the predicted earthquake in Portland - to wipe out the homos (they had a gay Pride Parade on Sunday). That's troublesome to me because it has no Gospel of grace representation, for last time I checked, Christ did not only die for the sins of heterosexuals but for all of humanity.

As far as Miller's interpretations being correct, hmmmm, that's debatable as well. Ok, so at least they figured out that the Old Covenant design of the high priest making atonement for man's sins was fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Wheew! So far so good.

Here's where they messed up again - building on this model, early Adventists began to teach that even as the earthly high priest entered an earthly temple on the Day of Atonement, on October 22, 1844, the heavenly High Priest - Jesus - stepped through the heavenly temple's veil, moving from the holy place to the Holy of Holies. Having entered the most holy place in the heavenly temple, Christ had now, as of October 22, 1844, at midnight(!), allegedly cleansed the sanctuary in fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy. *cough!*

Unfortunately, this is still the position of the SDA church today. We're not making friends and influencing people because of it.

Thanks for your post. =)

Trailady said...

Interesting, Marcel. I think far too often churches think they have everything in the bag- they've found the "perfect" formula as far as God, the Truth and how to obtain Salvation goes. However, there is SOOOOO much more to learn-especially when it comes to love.

However, I think SDA's are moving toward a more grace-based view these days- at least I hope so. Could be wrong, but I think there is a more relationship focused approach dawning on the horizon of mainstream Adventism. :o)
I am a New Covenant Christian. The work of Jesus was completed at the Cross on my behalf. His resurrection sealed my destiny. My salvation is assured. I'm not perfect by any means- except through the merits of Christ Jesus.

It disturbs me any time some religious blow-hard starts condemning a certain group of people or focusing on certain sins as worse than others- especially if they have something to gain politically or financially by doing so. If you recall, there were several religious people who were quick to assert that the Twin Towers fell because homosexuals were employed there. How ridiculous! If those planes hit the towers because of sinners being employed there- then everyone in the building brought it on. When tempted to point the finger of accusation, we can always go back to the quote "He who is without sin can cast the first stone." Homosexuals are shunned, despised, ridiculed and condemned while other unaddressed & unconfessed problems walk through the church doors each week. Often those with the most secret sins are the loudest in pointing out the faults of others. Jesus saw right through this attitude and so must we.

Whew- long comment- sorry! I think we're going to see some pretty colorful events happen by way of prophesies- both true & false, disasters, etc. in the future. Nope, I'm not a prophet. ;o)

Roseuvsharon said...

This really makes me wonder.....

Who is in charge of deciding which sins are worse than others? I mean, can stealing a piece of candy be that much worse than gossipping about someone until their reputation is mud and their life is ruined, but "hey I didn't steal or anything like that!"

I'm glad God is the judge and not me. Just because some people have "sins" that are more noticeable than others, doesn't mean one person's sins nailed Jesus to the cross and another person's sins were just kind of nothing.

Just once. Just once I'd love to see someone who gossips about people realize their sin is just as guilty of nailing Jesus to the cross as the person guilty of adultery.

Uh Oh, I feel a soapbox coming on, I better stop.